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    Ëàìïî÷êà Ïåäî ïàðàä â Ãåðìàíèè ïðîø¸ë îòëè÷íî

    Òóò íà àíãëèéñêîì ÿçûêå, íî ïîçæå ïåðåâåäó íà ðóññêèé.

    Do you know of / remember any instances in the past where there has been people publicly marching for MAP pride?

    I tried to find some news and came across this article on the feminist wsite Reduxx:

    Pro-Pedophilia Activists Marched for Equal Rights At 2022 Cologne Pride

    Reduxx has learned that members of a German pro-pedophilia group were present and demonstrating during one of Europe’s largest Pride celrations in Cologne.

    According to a post on the wsite K13online, members of the pedophile community called Krumme-13 congregated at the parade, colloquially known as Christopher Street Day (CSD), on July 2, and displayed a flag representing “minor-attracted persons” pride.

    The post uses the acronym LGBTIQ+P and demands the “official inclusion of pedophiles” within the LGBT movement. Describing the symbolism of the MAP flag, Krumme-13 says that the colors “connect pedo-, he- and/or also partheno-ephophiles,” which are sexual paraphilias that distinguish the preferred age ranges for sexual. The baby blue and pink stripes in the MAP flag which symbolize a sexual interest in young boys (blue color) and young girls (pink color).

    […]


    Krumme-13, along with other German child sex advocates, call for the inclusion of pedophilia as a protected “sexual identity” in accordance with Article 3 of Germany’s Basic Law, which prohibits discrimination on the basis of certain characteristics, including race and sex.

    […]

    A statement on the K13online wsite asserts that “pedophilia is an independent sexual identity and must therefore also be protected by Article 3.” The justification provided for this position, according to Krumme-13, is that “the vast majority of pedophiles do not commit any crimes,” and thus, their sexual attraction is no different than homosexuality or heterosexuality in principle. The activists have been demanding that the “pedophile [sexual] identity” be “protected from discrimination, criminalization, exclusion and persecution” under Germany’s equality laws.

    […]

    Krumme-13 is spearheaded by pedophile lobbyist Dieter Gieseking, who has filed a total of three petitions with the Bundestag, or parliament, calling on members of the political parties SPD (Socialist Democrats), FDP (Free Democratic Party) and the Greens to agree to an amendment to Article 3 which would protect pedophilia as a “sexual identity.”

    Gieseking frames his campaigning as an effort to defend “children’s rights” and to protect “sexual minorities” from discrimination. The two most recent petitions submitted to the government were lodged on Fruary 14, 2021.

    […]

    “That is just the current zeitgeist, in the past studies have shown the many benefits (of sex with children) for children… The problem is that victim protection and child protection organizations have sprung up and influenced mainstream media,” he added. Gieseking speaks of the multinational pro-pedophile campaigning that occurred through the 60’s – 80’s in nations such as the United States, United Kingdom, and the Netherlands as a better time for the “zeitgeist.”

    […]

    The German government has its own history of supporting and even subsidizing child sexual. Throughout the late 60’s – 80’s, German sexologists — including the originator of the term “cisgender” — began to frame adult sexual relations with children as progressive and harmless rather than abusive.

    The Kentler experiment conducted by Berlin-based sexologist Helmut Kentler saw children placed in the homes of pedophiles beginning in 1969 for the purpose of facilitating child sexual research. This experiment was authorized and subsidized by the Berlin Senate. In 1988, nearly two decades later, Kentler described the project as a “complete success” in a report he submitted to the Senate.

    So pervasive was the cultural trend towards the legalization of pedophilia that even Germany’s Green Party advocated for the abolition of Paragraph 176 of the German Criminal Code, which criminalized sexual activity with children under the age of 14.

    According to leading German women’s rights advocate and journalist Alice Schwarzer, feminist groups were the only ones vocally opposing the legalization of pedophilia being championed by members of the Green Party.

    […]

    The legislation that would have lowered the age of consent was drafted in part by the Greens organization BAG SchwuP (Federal Working Group for Gays and Transsexuals). In 1984, the BAG SchwuP was delegated to the parliament’s working group for “Law and Society” and was financed by the federal government.

    […]

    Members of the modern German pedophile community who protested at the Pride event on July 2 made no reports of being physically or verbally assaulted for promoting their views. In contrast, during the same parade, a group of women were attacked by transactivists and called “TERFs” for implying that men could not identify as lesbians. One of their detractors was an organizer for the Dyke March.

    Source and full article:
    https://reduxx.info/pro-pedophilia-a...cologne-pride/
    Ïîñëåäíèé ðàç ðåäàêòèðîâàëîñü Ghost Antifa; 30.09.2023 â 20:55.

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    Íà ðóññêîì:

    Çíàåòå ëè âû / ïîìíèòå êàêèå-ëèáî ñëó÷àè â ïðîøëîì, êîãäà ëþäè ïóáëè÷íî ìàðøèðîâàëè â ïîääåðæêó ãîðäîñòè MAP?

    ß ïîïûòàëàñü íàéòè íîâîñòè è íàòêíóëàñü íà ýòó ñòàòüþ íà ôåìèíèñòñêîì ñàéòå Reduxx:

    Àêòèâèñòû, âûñòóïàþùèå çà ïåäîôèëèþ, ïðîøëè ìàðøåì çà ðàâíûå ïðàâà íà êåëüíñêîì ïðàéäå 2022 ãîäà

    Reduxx ñòàëî èçâåñòíî, ÷òî ÷ëåíû íåìåöêîé ãðóïïû ñòîðîííèêîâ ïåäîôèëèè ïðèñóòñòâîâàëè è ó÷àñòâîâàëè â äåìîíñòðàöèè âî âðåìÿ îäíîãî èç êðóïíåéøèõ â Åâðîïå ïðàéäîâ â Êåëüíå.

    Ñîãëàñíî ñîîáùåíèþ íà ñàéòå K13online, ÷ëåíû ñîîáùåñòâà ïåäîôèëîâ ïîä íàçâàíèåì Krumme-13 ñîáðàëèñü íà ïàðàäå, èçâåñòíîì â ïðîñòîðå÷èè êàê Christopher Street Day (CSD), 2 èþëÿ, è âûñòàâèëè ôëàã, ñèìâîëèçèðóþùèé ãîðäîñòü «íåñîâåðøåííîëåòíèõ».

    Ïîñò èñïîëüçóåò àááðåâèàòóðó LGBTQ+P è òðåáóåò «îôèöèàëüíîãî âêëþ÷åíèÿ ïåäîôèëîâ» â ËÃÁÒ-äâèæåíèå. Îïèñûâàÿ ñèìâîëèêó ôëàãà MAP, Êðóììå-13 ãîâîðèò, ÷òî öâåòà «ñîåäèíÿþò ïåäî-, ãå- è/èëè òàêæå ïàðòåíî-/ýôîôèëîâ», êîòîðûå ÿâëÿþòñÿ ïîëîâûìè ïàðàôèëèÿìè, îïðåäåëÿþùèìè ïðåäïî÷òèòåëüíûå âîçðàñòíûå äèàïàçîíû. Íåæíî-ãîëóáûå è ðîçîâûå ïîëîñû íà ôëàãå MAP, êîòîðûå ñèìâîëèçèðóþò ñåêñóàëüíûé èíòåðåñ ãîëóáîé öâåò ê ìàëü÷èêàì è ðîçîâûé öâåò ê äåâî÷êàì.

    […]

    Êðóììå-13 âìåñòå ñ äðóãèìè íåìåöêèìè çàùèòíèêàìè, ïðèçûâàþò ê âêëþ÷åíèþ ïåäîôèëèè â êà÷åñòâå çàùèùåííîé «ñåêñóàëüíîé èäåíòè÷íîñòè» â ñîîòâåòñòâèè ñî ñòàòüåé 3 Îñíîâíîãî çàêîíà Ãåðìàíèè, êîòîðàÿ çàïðåùàåò äèñêðèìèíàöèþ íà îñíîâàíèè îïðåäåëåííûõ õàðàêòåðèñòèê, âêëþ÷àÿ ðàñó è ïîë.

    […]

     çàÿâëåíèè íà ñàéòå K13online óòâåðæäàåòñÿ, ÷òî «ïåäîôèëèÿ ÿâëÿåòñÿ íåçàâèñèìîé ñåêñóàëüíîé èäåíòè÷íîñòüþ è ïîýòîìó òàêæå äîëæíà áûòü çàùèùåíà ñòàòüåé 3». Îáîñíîâàíèå äàííîé ïîçèöèè, ïî ìíåíèþ Êðóììå-13, çàêëþ÷àåòñÿ â òîì, ÷òî «ïîäàâëÿþùåå áîëüøèíñòâî ïåäîôèëîâ íå ñîâåðøàþò íèêàêèõ ïðåñòóïëåíèé», è, òàêèì îáðàçîì, èõ ñåêñóàëüíîå âëå÷åíèå íè÷åì íå îòëè÷àåòñÿ îò ãîìîñåêñóàëüíîñòè èëè ãåòåðîñåêñóàëüíîñòè â ïðèíöèïå. Àêòèâèñòû òðåáóþò, ÷òîáû ïåäîôèëüíàÿ [ñåêñóàëüíàÿ] èäåíòè÷íîñòü áûëà çàùèùåíà îò äèñêðèìèíàöèè, êðèìèíàëèçàöèè, èñêëþ÷åíèÿ è ïðåñëåäîâàíèÿ â ñîîòâåòñòâèè ñ çàêîíàìè Ãåðìàíèè î ðàâåíñòâå.

    […]

    Êðóììå-13 âîçãëàâëÿåò ëîááèñò-ïåäîôèë Äèòåð Ãèçåêèíã, êîòîðûé ïîäàë â Áóíäåñòàã â îáùåé ñëîæíîñòè òðè ïåòèöèè, ïðèçûâàÿ ÷ëåíîâ ïîëèòè÷åñêèõ ïàðòèé ÑÄÏà (Ñîöèàëèñòè÷åñêèå äåìîêðàòû), ÑâÄÏ (Ñâîáîäíàÿ äåìîêðàòè÷åñêàÿ ïàðòèÿ) è Çåëåíûõ ñîãëàñèòüñÿ ê ïîïðàâêå ê ñòàòüå 3, êîòîðàÿ áóäåò çàùèùàòü ïåäîôèëèþ êàê ñåêñóàëüíóþ èäåíòè÷íîñòü.

    Ãèçåêèíã ïðåäñòàâëÿåò ñâîþ êàìïàíèþ êàê ñòðåìëåíèå çàùèòèòü ïðàâà äåòåé è çàùèòèòü ñåêñóàëüíûå ìåíüøèíñòâà îò äèñêðèìèíàöèè. Äâå ïîñëåäíèå ïåòèöèè, ïîäàííûå â ïðàâèòåëüñòâî, áûëè ïîäàíû 14 ôåâðàëÿ 2021 ãîäà.

    […]

    Ýòî ïðîñòî íûíåøíèé äóõ âðåìåíè, â ïðîøëûõ èññëåäîâàíèÿõ áûëî ïîêàçàíî ìíîæåñòâî ïðåèìóùåñòâ (ñåêñà ñ äåòüìè) äëÿ äåòåé… Ïðîáëåìà â òîì, ÷òî âîçíèêëè îðãàíèçàöèè ïî çàùèòå æåðòâ è çàùèòå äåòåé, êîòîðûå îêàçàëè âëèÿíèå íà îñíîâíûå ñðåäñòâà ìàññîâîé èíôîðìàöèè», — äîáàâèë îí. Ãèçåêèíã ãîâîðèò î ìíîãîíàöèîíàëüíûõ êàìïàíèÿõ â ïîääåðæêó ïåäîôèëîâ, êîòîðûå ïðîèñõîäèëè â 60-80-õ ãîäàõ â òàêèõ ñòðàíàõ, êàê Ñîåäèíåííûå Øòàòû, Âåëèêîáðèòàíèÿ è Íèäåðëàíäû, êàê î ëó÷øåì âðåìåíè äëÿ äóõà âðåìåíè.

    […]

    Íåìåöêîå ïðàâèòåëüñòâî èìååò ñâîþ èñòîðèþ ïîääåðæêè è äàæå ñóáñèäèðîâàíèÿ ñåêñóàëüíîãî èññëåäîâàíèÿ äåòåé. Íà ïðîòÿæåíèè êîíöà 60-õ — 80-õ ãîäîâ íåìåöêèå ñåêñîëîãè íà÷àëè ðàññìàòðèâàòü ñåêñóàëüíûå îòíîøåíèÿ âçðîñëûõ ñ äåòüìè êàê ïðîãðåññèâíûå è áåçîáèäíûå, à íå îñêîðáèòåëüíûå.

    Èçâåñòíûé ýêñïåðèìåíò Êåíòëåðà, ïðîâåäåííûé áåðëèíñêèì ñåêñîëîãîì Ãåëüìóòîì Êåíòëåðîì, ïîêàçàë, ÷òî äåòè ðàñïîëàãàëèñü â äîìà ïåäîôèëîâ, íà÷èíàÿ ñ 1969 ãîäà, ñ öåëüþ ñîäåéñòâèÿ ñåêñóàëüíîìó èññëåäîâàíèþ äåòåé. Ýòîò ýêñïåðèìåíò áûë ñàíêöèîíèðîâàí è ñóáñèäèðîâàí Ñåíàòîì Áåðëèíà.  1988 ãîäó, ïî÷òè äâà äåñÿòèëåòèÿ ñïóñòÿ, Êåíòëåð îïèñàë ïðîåêò êàê ïîëíûé óñïåõ â îò÷åòå, êîòîðûé îí ïðåäñòàâèë â Ñåíàò.

    Êóëüòóðíàÿ òåíäåíöèÿ ê ëåãàëèçàöèè ïåäîôèëèè áûëà íàñòîëüêî ðàñïðîñòðàíåíà, ÷òî äàæå Íåìåöêàÿ ïàðòèÿ çåëåíûõ âûñòóïàëà çà îòìåíó ïàðàãðàôà 176 Óãîëîâíîãî êîäåêñà Ãåðìàíèè, êîòîðûé êðèìèíàëèçèðîâàë ñåêñóàëüíûå îòíîøåíèÿ ñ äåòüìè â âîçðàñòå äî 14 ëåò.

    Ïî ñëîâàì âåäóùåãî íåìåöêîãî çàùèòíèêà ïðàâ æåíùèí è æóðíàëèñòêè Àëèñû Øâàðöåð, ôåìèíèñòñêèå ãðóïïû áûëè åäèíñòâåííûìè, îòêðûòî âûñòóïàâøèìè ïðîòèâ ëåãàëèçàöèè ïåäîôèëèè, êîòîðóþ îòñòàèâàëè ÷ëåíû Ïàðòèè çåëåíûõ.

    […]

    Çàêîí, êîòîðûé äîëæåí áûë ñíèçèòü âîçðàñò ñîãëàñèÿ, áûë ÷àñòè÷íî ðàçðàáîòàí îðãàíèçàöèåé çåëåíûõ BAG SchwuP (Ôåäåðàëüíàÿ ðàáî÷àÿ ãðóïïà ïî äåëàì ãååâ, è òðàíññåêñóàëîâ).  1984 ãîäó BAG SchwuP áûë äåëåãèðîâàí â ïàðëàìåíòñêóþ ðàáî÷óþ ãðóïïó «Ïðàâî è îáùåñòâî» è ôèíàíñèðîâàëñÿ ôåäåðàëüíûì ïðàâèòåëüñòâîì.

    […]

    ×ëåíû ñîâðåìåííîãî íåìåöêîãî ñîîáùåñòâà ïåäîôèëîâ, ïðîòåñòîâàâøèå íà ìåðîïðèÿòèè Pride 2 èþëÿ, íå ñîîáùèëè î ôèçè÷åñêîì èëè ñëîâåñíîì íàïàäåíèè çà ïðîïàãàíäó ñâîèõ âçãëÿäîâ. Íàïðîòèâ, âî âðåìÿ òîãî æå ïàðàäà ãðóïïà æåíùèí ïîäâåðãëàñü íàïàäåíèþ ñî ñòîðîíû òðàíñàêòèâèñòîâ è íàçâàëà èõ «ÒÝÐÔàìè» çà òî, ÷òî îíè ïîäðàçóìåâàþò, ÷òî ìóæ÷èíû íå ìîãóò èäåíòèôèöèðîâàòü ñåáÿ êàê ëåñáèÿíîê. Îäíèì èç èõ íåäîáðîæåëàòåëåé áûë îðãàíèçàòîð Ìàðøà Äàéêîâ.
    Ïîñëåäíèé ðàç ðåäàêòèðîâàëîñü Ghost Antifa; 30.09.2023 â 20:57.

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    Òåêñò îòðåäàêòèðîâàí, èç íåãî áûëè óáðàíû êîììåíòàðèè íåêîòîðûõ ôåìèíèñòîê, êîòîðûå ñìåøèâàþòñÿ ñ òåêñòîì ðåàëüíîé èñòîðèè è ââîäÿò â çàáëóæäåíèå, ãäå óòâåðæäàþò, êîììåíòèðóþò, ÷òî ïåäîñåêñóàëû íàñèëüíèêè è òèïà òîãî, íî ýòî êëåâåòà è äåçèíôîðìàöèÿ. Äåòîëþáû, ïåäîñåêñóàëû íèêîãäà íå ïðèçûâàëè è íå ïðèçûâàþò ê íàñèëèþ, áîëåå òîãî öèâèëüíûå ïåäîñåêñóàëû, ïåäîôèëû ïðîòèâ íàñèëèÿ.

    Ññûëêè íà îôèöèàëüíûé íåìåöêèé ïåðâîèñòî÷íèê:
    https://krumme13.org/news.php?s=read&id=4831

    https://krumme13.org/news.php?s=read&id=4836

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    Èç îôèöèàëüíîãî èñòî÷íèêà èçâåñòíî, ÷òî ýòî íå ïåðâûé ïåäî ïàðàä â ʸëüíå 2022, äî íåãî áûëè åù¸ äâà ïåäî ïðàéäà, îäèí â Áåðëèíå â 2021 ãîäó, äðóãîé â Àìñòåðäàìå, òîæå 2021 ãîäà.

    Ïðàéä áîéëàâ, ÷àéëäëàâ â Áåðëèíå:


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